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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:17:00

reporter: most of the tipster s information was frustratingly vague, like a riddle, yet another game to be played. there were two killers, though he gave no names. one had a knife, the other had the getaway car. both worked at a big box department store. the man who told the story in the bar that day had been the driver of the car and with the blood money he had bought a truck and a sea-doo. but on the question of who was behind the plot, that s when the story named names, two of them. they were sandra s son, tom, the mama s boy jack raised as his own. under the direction of the mastermind herself, jack s wife, sandra. so with that new perspective on the case, dove revisited sandra s old interview. the hours of mostly useless chatter. how many times did you listen to that interview? at least ten times. reporter: and then it jumped out at him. right about here on the tape. sandra is going through slips of paper in her day planner.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:57:00

it was just like the whole night had happened all over again. that one juror, you know, i saw her. i went and talked to her. what did you say? i said she was an idiot. it was certainly difficult for me. it was far more difficult for the family. murray promised the family justice. spent two years putting a new case together. and just weeks before trial, he got a call. it was from tom s attorney saying his client was ready to cut the apron strings and testify against his mom. there s no way that we ever suspected that tom aehlert would ever turn on his mother. he was known to be a mama s boy. but a mama s boy who decided he didn t want to die in prison. tom pleaded guilty to second degree murder, got 15 to life. besides helping connect the crime to his mother, he had someone else he wanted to give up. that friend of brett s.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191222 09:17:00

played. there were two killers, though he gave no names. one had a knife, the other had the getaway car. both worked at a big box department store. the man who told the story in the bar that day had been the driver of the car and with the blood money, he had bought a truck and a sea-doo. but on the question of who was behind the plot, that s when the story named names, two of them. they were sandra s son tom, the mama s boy jack raised as his own. under the direction of the mastermind herself, jack s wife, sandra. so with that new perspective on the case, dove revisited sandra s old interview. the hours of mostly useless chatter. how many times did you listen to that interview? at least ten times. reporter: and then it jumped out at him. right about here on the tape, sandra is going through slips of paper in her day planner. she looks at one and says

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191222 09:57:00

like the whole night happened all over again. that one juror, you know, i saw her. i went and talked to her. what did you say? i said she was an idiot. it was certainly difficult for me. it was far more difficult for the family. murray promised the family justice. spent two years putting a new case together. and just weeks before trial, he got a call. it was from tom s attorney saying his client was ready to cut the apron strings and testify against his mom. there s no way that we ever suspected that tom aehlert would ever turn on his mother. he was known to be a mama s boy. but a mama s boy who decided he didn t want to die in prison. tom pleaded guilty to second degree murder, got 15 to life. besides helping connect the crime to his mother, tom had somebody else he wanted to give up. that friend of brett s. the one who claim he drove with him in the car and killed jack

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190120:05:17:00

the person had used a back door or a window to enter the residence that night. that was significant in that this person had specific details unknown to the general public about the murder of jack jessee. reporter: most of the tipster s information was frustratingly vague, like a riddle, yet another game to be played. there were two killers, though he gave no names. one had a knife, the other had the getaway car. both worked at a big box department store. the man who told the story in the bar that day had been the driver of the car and with the blood money he bought a truck and a sea-doo. but on the question of who was behind the plot, that s when the story named names, two of them. they were sandra s son, tom, the mama s boy jack raised as his own. under the direction of the mastermind herself, jack s wife, sandra. so with that new perspective on the case, dove revisited

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