restaurant overseas, a very short phone call with the president of the united states. it s hearsay upon hearsay upon hearsay. he is hearing things. sondland testified about that. what did sondland say ultimately? sondland said the president said i don t want anything. there is no quid pro quo. what does our president want? he wants to fight corruption not only here but abroad. before we release money to the ukraine, did you know we have to certify it is not going for corruption. sandra: what was rudy giuliani s involvement there? we heard one of the witnesses yesterday say that sondland, ambassador sondland was doing a political errand for the president. sondland testified he was carrying out orders from the president. and rudy giuliani. so this was put to the president this morning on that interview on fox about rudy giuliani and his involvement in all those dealings in ukraine and here was his response. president trump: rudy
be impeached but he welcomes a trial in the senate claiming democrats have nothing incriminating after days of public testimony. here is pam bondi from the white house addressing that. the president of the united states sets foreign policy, not sondland, not anyone else. the president will continue to fight corruption. this is coming from the president of the united states that he is against corruption domestically and abroad especially if we give $400 million of lethal aid, not blanket aid, lethal aid to the ukraine. we had to make sure president zelensky who proved himself now to be a darn good president. he is fighting corruption within the ukraine before we released that money to the country. it is that simple. bill: want to make time for the a-team. juan williams, co-host of the five. david asman from the fox
dinner with trump. this is corruption plain and simple. it is his job to get along with everybody in washington i m sure he has had a lot of dinners with backers of democrats and pals around with more progressives than he does conservatives. i think from a board s perspective and shareholder perspective he did the thing he is supposed to be doing. do you think she said that when barack obama had dinner with facebook? she has to get off this. you mention how shareholders believe? the bottom line impact is what they believe. it is easier for twitter to take the stand because they don t make a lot of money. they don t make any money off this kind of stuff. it s harder for google and for facebook. you are asking them to give up a lot of money. when it is all said and done whatever side loses will be whining and complaining no matter what. bill: you re right about the gray area. how do you make a determination on that? it goes to first amendment. honestly i don t know that
rushed or taken lightly. i have not heard evidence proving the president committed bribery or extortion. sandra: here is the atlantic headline. following the hearing last night. will hurd isn t fold. if democrats can t persuade a moderate public to vote to impeach president trump they are unlikely to win republicans at all. nothing to lose and not con vinsd. does it make sense for democrats to proceed knowing there is no republican support for it yet? first of all i don t know there is no republican support. i have talked to a number of people who are deeply disturbed and being cautious. their arms are being broken and i m very disturbed by the undo influence i m seeing put on republicans. i was greatly disturbed by what i heard. it is very clear the ukrainian president was the word bribe does work with being told you are not going to get this aid that you need unless you agree to do this investigation and you do it publicly and we do have evidence that money was
other two amigos i ll call you. it is not a perfect phone call like the president said and you had gordon sondland on the record that was strong to say that it was a quid pro quo. now then the republicans say well, this is what he surmised. it wasn t direct. let s face facts. it was there for all on the inside and now on the outside to see that the president let s also be clear gave the ukrainians the aid. they have the money. and he gave them more money and more lethal aid than barack obama ever did. but there were some strings leading up to that which the white house initially sort of denied and now it s clear that those strings were there. so it was not a perfect phone call but from the beginning the president and others have said it doesn t rise to impeachable conduct and it would look based on the polls and more importantly the evidence before the congress and the american people to back that up, it is not impeachable. i would push back on juan saying it was a perfect week for