that is how makeup gu ru bobbi brown describes herself. she says she has never seen the glass ceiling. we talked to brown as part of our special series this week what women want. reporter: makeup maven bobbi brown is not shy. about her age or her success. i never think about not being successful in what i do. and i think it s a combination of courage and being naive. i just think why not. you can use it on your lips too. reporter: brown started her company in 1991 with ten lipsticks. i was doing a shoot and i met a chemist and i explained to him my dream to find lipstick that looked like lips. reporter: the idea took off. she sold 100 in the first day. four years later estee lauder s son leonard came calling.