it s actually really hard to talk about coach right now. and i lost i have known him since the last name. i have lost meadow pollock, i have known her since sixth grade and i also lost nick who i actually didn t know until last year when he was in my peer counseling class. we became very close. we hung out outside of school a couple times that kid was an inspiration. rachel: last night there was a memorial service. has the memorial service and these kinds of remember remembrances have they been helping to you heal to cope with what has happened this week which is so tragic?
will? they helped to a certain extent. they bring us all together. they showed that we are a community and that we are all there for each other and we have a support group. we have such a loving they are hard at the same time because they remind us of what happened and it s hard to see, you know, the faces and hear the names. but it s good to know that we have such a loving community and such a great amount of support from our friends and family and local politicians. brian: lucas, they see these sports teams become like a family. could you talk about your coach s role in that family? feis was pretty much like the dad of our group. he came in outside school, inside of school. he taught us that most of what i know, because i played offensive line. he was my individual coach. he came in to culinary when we were making food. we would always feed him. he was always there when we needed him the most. i think that s why we miss him so much. brian: even graduated from your school, right?
i can tell you as a parent, you know, parents need to be involved with their kids social media. you need to follow them on social media. you are paying for that phone bill. you know, have that. look at it i understand that these are the type of things people need to start doing to hopefully prevent one of these from happening again. steve: we saw his public defender yesterday put her hand around him when he appeared before the judge. the defender says he is deeply disturbed. has a history of mental illness. dolls that lay the groundwork for an insanity plea or you know, we just heard from rob schmitt three days after he was kicked out of school he went and bought that rifle. obviously it sounds like that s the route they are going to go with this. somebody can suffer from mental illness but still be, you know, legally responsible for their actions. i mean, you know, for someone to be deemed incompetent that s a court process. now if they are going to go not guilty by reason of insani
jamaica high school mark epstein. welcome. so what are schools getting wrong? well, in this particular case, if you would compare it to, say, new york city high school where you would have standing and all the students are really funneled through one portal like you would have in an airport like going through tsa, it s clear this campus did not have. this i mean, they were doing nothing. you have a big campus. brian: 3,000 kids. a lot of entrances and exits. have kids going in and out all the time. going out to the athletic field. dealing with big logistical problems. clearly the entry part of it seems to be nothing like you would see. rachel: i am in a military brat. i went to a school that was sprawling like that? guess what, there was a big wall around the entire campus. talking about wall as lot in this country. why wouldn t we fortify our schools? well, again, this a design issue.
he can t stop them. the only thing he could do is give his life to save others. if he had a gun maybe there would have been a different outcome. brian: lucas, maybe you could help us. we don t understand in terms of the security. what was the security? if i wanted to go in and out of your school, why be stopped? if i m a former student, why be stopped going in and out of the school, lucas? i mean, you would definitely be questioned. i don t know if be there he would definitely be questioned. and if you got. brian: that s how he did it, i guess. steve: tyler, let me ask you this. we appreciate you guys all showing up today, but this has got to be really hard. because you three all knew pretty much everybody who was killed a couple of days ago. how are you doing? i don t know. i m exhausted. i m mentally and physically drained. i haven t been sleeping well, you know.