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enters our mainstream process. people know this. they found these smaller operations, there s a diaspora of sketchy sites they use to push out their messages. they try to do another big thing is e-mail lists. they try to do it in smaller spaces so they don t get caught. they spend enormous amount of money. it s scary. this is what dark money is now. they used to talk about ad spends on tv and all these things. it s much harder to attract the stuff down now. dark money seems like it moves differently. oh, my gosh, yes. that s the thing, like we said we don t know the funding of these things, but there are other, you know, large money donors that spend on much smaller sites. and we need to like, the facebook ad transparency tool allows you to see the stuff at the top. the stuff at the bottom doesn t help. that trool is broken all the time. there s really no regulation

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