katherine, as we know, france prides itself on making no distinction between its citizens on the basis of religion or ethnicity. but bite seem in reality that is not the case. do you feel that this is some sort of reckoning for france, what s going on right now? well, things are certainly coming to a head, but there s a sense in which we ve been here before. every 15, 20 years or so, there seems to be an anger which boils over. and some of the people that i ve been speaking to in the suburbs of france, including where this particular cycle of violence was first sparked by the shooting of this young man, people say they feel that nothing has really changed, that they are not included in mainstream french society, that they are the victims of police brutality, that the police treat them roughly with impunity. france does not collect data on demographics by ethnicity because the state wants to be seen as color blind, but a lot