an unprecedented sentence, particularly in the post soviet era. you know, we should note that the judge who sentenced him was a judge who was on the magnitsky list and he himself, vladimir kara murza, had campaigned after the death of magnitsky to push russian human rights violators on this list and ban them from travel, certainly to the us. and this veryjudge who also sentenced magnitsky has also sentenced kara murza. it is a sign that the kremlin is so concerned about opposition to the war that this is supposed to deter anyone from speaking out against it. a 25 year prison sentence is unprecedented. why do you think the kremlin sees kara murza as a threat? because he has consistently spoken out about russian human rights abuses for years now. he was a friend of
Vladimir Kara-Murza has the same jailer that Sergei Magnitsky had. That fact alone tells you something important about the rot at the heart of the Russian system.
The UK said earlier that the case of Kara-Murza was heard by Judge Sergey Podoprigorov, who had been sanctioned by the UK since 2020 as a member of the Magnitsky List, which Kara-Murza helped to compile
asset freezes and visa bands and russian officials have been very much affected by the sanctions. the fact that this regime sees my husband as an enemy, a personal enemy as proven by the presence of three people on the magnitsky list in vladimir s case, one of whom is actually the judge. sergey podoprigora, who sent sergei magnitsky in 2008 to, uh, unlawful detention as a result of which sergei died. this is the same man who is now trying my husband. he s been on the magnitsky list for years. can i ask you again because the kremlin imposed these instruments of fear as you call them as warnings, really for other people, including journalists. i mean, just look at evan gersh, covic. and now you re seeing other journalists leaving the country. are you worried that at least in the short term, they may be effective in suppressing opposition and the truth.