analyst. good to see you both. julian, we ll talk about the time magazine debacle, if you will, in a minute, but first, let s talk about the president s potentially picking a fight now with congress and the courts over this appointment of this cfpb, it is something that a lot of folks have to get used to. they may know about the agency broadly but they perhaps were not familiar with the name, the kur consumer financial protection bureau. apparently the director stepping out and appointing the deputy. then the president saying instead i want my omb director to fill that spot. why would the president do this, knowing that it s going to lead to a fight with congress or the courts? well, i think he did it with a lot of intention. meaning this is a bureau that the administration does not like. this was set up in 2010 to help middle class consumers, to protect them from fraud. i think already by creating this kind of conflict and uncertainty, he undermines the
time magazine s offer to be person of the year. the president tweeted, time magazine calleded to say that i was probably going to be named man, person, of the year, but like last year i would have to agree to an interview and a major photo shoot. i said probably is no go, and took a pass. time magazine responded. the president is incorrect about how we choose person of the year. time does not comment on our choice until our publication which is december 6th. president trump was named time s person of the year last year in 2016 following his victory over hillary clinton. we won t know this year s winner for another 11 days now. joining me, hilary rosen and paris stenard. hilary, we are going to talk about the time magazine debacle and confusion. but first, the confusion and this now showdown over the consumer financial protection bureau. so why is the president picking a potential fight that he just