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madison kenyon is a college track athlete who also competed against biological males. she joins me now to share her story along with her attorney kristin wagner. thank you both for being with us. i should say while leah thomas hasn t had gender surgery he did have a year s worth of hormonal treatment which is what is required it doesn t change the biological fact that he is a man. he went through pursuant as a man. he has muscle structure and everything through 22 years of his life as a man. madison, have you competed against this exact situation in track. you have competed against transgender athletes. yeah. i think i missed your question because it gliched. you might have to ask it again. will: sure, would you tell all of us watching right now what is it like to go into a competition against a transgender athlete when you know the outcome ahead of time? yeah, it s extremely deflating. i have experienced it five times.

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