the flu. it was a crisis. but now we have a vaccine, we know a lot more about it. and as i say we ve seen a lot of other countries start to manage this. yet a lot of the voices he seems to be listening to are behaving as if we re back in march 2020 where we don t know anything, where we don t have a vaccine. and that s just not the case. so i would hope he would start to listen to scientists who are saying this is actually okay. we can manage this. dana: charles cook, great to have you back on the show. we would love to have you return at some point and we ll check out your podcast mad dogs and englishmen. bill: upset in the u.s. open over the weekend. you are about to meet the number one player in the world. now he will be, because he pulled off a major stunner. also did you see this? dana has been going nuts about
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