colonel vindman, obviously is going to be at the top of their list. fiona hill, former top russia advisor on the national security council is also going to be high on that list. anybody who can essentially speak to the public to back up the allegations of a quid pro quo. the first part of that being the idea that the white house meeting between president trump and president zelensky was used as leverage to get these politically-motivated investigations that the president wanted. the second aspect of that being, of course, the military aid to ukraine. democrats feel like they have less evidence of that and more evidence that the meeting was leveraged as part of the quid pro quo. and the military aid remains a glaring blindspot for them. i ve talked to democrats who say that basically the reason why they haven t figured out why the aid was initially put on hold and sort of what the internal machination of that were is because these officials from the office of management and budget just
pompeo and bolton. and it appears that bolton was already trying to signal or had made common cause with those expressing concern and alarm where as pompeo not only did nothing when the president of the united states fired and demanded the outer of previous prime minister of ukraine. many tried to appeal to pompeo. and did nothing to save her job and never spoke out. that was the reason for the resignation of the mike mckinly. ten days ago. we forgot that. that s significant. pompeo was on the phone call the famous july 25 phone call between president zelensky and president trump. so he was fully read into this ukraine plot. rudy giuliani continues to insist the state department knew everything about the machination in ukraine. does that mean pompeo personally
already trying to signal or had made common cause with those expressing concern and alarm where as pompeo not only did nothing when the president of the united states fired and demanded the outer of previous prime minister of ukraine. many tried to appeal to pompeo. and did nothing to save her job and never spoke out. that was the reason for the resignation of the mike mckinly. ten days ago. we forgot that. that s significant. pompeo was on the phone call the famous july 25 phone call between president zelensky and president trump. so he was fully read into this ukraine plot. rudy giuliani continues to insist the state department knew everything about the machination in ukraine. does that mean pompeo personally was a part of this, obviously very important questions that
biden. we were, you allowed to this, learned yesterday giuliani could have been used in a foreign influence operation on the white house and the president. what do you know about that counterintelligence investigation? sure. the fbi asking questions about giuliani s investment with all of these ukrainian players since last spring and appears to still be active. if they had gotten to a dead end and nothing was to it the requirements, shut down within six months. best we can tell they re still out there talking to folks. as we keep dlov discovering, th are multiple sides and very possible rudy got played by a couple here looking to move a prosecutor they didn t like, to move a u.s. ambassador they didn t like, and that they felt giuliani could be their instrument in that machination. curious to see if these
you ve reported about the intersections of this firing and smearing of the reputation of marie yovanovitch? you reported on an effort by ambassadors volker and sondland to get zelensky to commit to investigating the bidens and an undercurrent in all of the machination. was either weakening, solelying the reputation of or ultimately removing marie yovanovitch. why? well, giuliani sort of is the thing that connects all of this. he believed that she was not doing enough to, quote/unquote, quite corruption. but in his mind, that was doing the investigations related to hunter biden and related to the 2016 election. this is part of a larger effort by him to have her ousted and ultimately something that he succeeded in. and if you look at all of these strands, giuliani is the thing that runs through them all. in terms of the statement that the american diplomats tried to