let s give a different sp perspective. the russian perspective. let s bring in cnn s matthew chance live from moscow. matthew, what are you hearing? reporter: john, a lot of confusion from the flynn side of the conversation whether sanctions were discussed or not. kremlin came out a few minutes ago and said we have had no conversations of sanctions with michael fliynn or any other trup team member. you know, that s something they are saying. there was an allegation that the conversation with michael flynn, which is acknowledged, and russian ambassador to the united states resulted in the m magnanoumuos decision. responding to the last set of sanctions where obamas expelled 35 diplomats over allegations of hacking. he decided not to wait for the