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i just kept praying that it would happen earlier. keith morrison : and then just minutes before travis release, a call from the cbi. detective jaclyn shaklee: we have a hit. keith morrison: wow. detective jaclyn shaklee: yes. keith morrison : the man who attacked lydia tillman was, the dna confirmed, travis forbes. detective jaclyn shaklee: it was the biggest adrenaline dump ever, and of course, i called detective gurule in tears. we did it, hes hes charged, hes hes in jail, hes not getting out. detective nash gurule: i was relieved that now hes going to be in jail and he wont be able to hurt nobody. now we know where hes at. so i dont have to be searching for him. keith morrison : word of travis arrest also traveled quickly to kenia monges family. tony lee: i was shocked. i knew that he would eventually hang himself, but i didnt think hed go out and try to murder again this soon. and i was shocked. we were shocked. maria lee: yeah. keith morrison : but they still didnt know what hap
who she dated. e who she worked with and her h family. crickets are chirping. it was a whodunit. everyone loved her and said there was nobody who would do this to her. we cannot imagine this would happen. the crime scene offered very few clues. it was so destroyed from the fire, especially where the sexual assault took place in her bedroom. it was so burned. you could basically make out where the bed was. finger prints all up in smoke or destroyed by something else discovered in the he apartment. he did a good job of cleaning up. he did quit the job obwith the bleach. bleach? the apartment still smelled of it despite all the smoke. but, in spite of all that bleach, they did find microscopic evidence that the attacker left behind. s dna. the majority of it was under lydia s fingernails. note that she put up a fight. are we out of the woods ye
no death penalty, no sex crime charges. and in exchange, he would give them a complete confession, what he did to kenia and lydia. and one more thing. he would show them exactly where kenia was. keith morrison : and so on a humid morning in september 2011, forbes found himself in a procession of police cars on a country road northeast of denver. investigators had been here many times before, searching the fields near the farm town of keenesburg looking for kenia. but this day travis had solemnly promised he was going to show them. trailing a car behind travis was da kerri lombardi, nervous, anxious and pessimistic. kerri lombardi: i was worried he wouldnt follow through, because i felt like he sort of liked this game, i thought. keith morrison: so along the way, what were you thinking? kerri lombardi: will he do this, will he not, will some spook him? will he change his mind, is this a big farce? you know, i didnt know if, you know, there was even
was that their suspect was still out there somewhere on the street at large, potentially targeting his next victim. and it would stay that way unless detectives could prove that the attacks were both the work of travis forbes. keith morrison : there was one possibility and really only one. sitting at the denver police crime lab were several swabs of travis dna which detective nash gurule had obtained when the two talked in texas. detective jaclyn shaklee: and we needed that, obviously quickly, to compare it to what had been collected from lydia tillman when she was transported to the hospital because keith morrison: but she had been sprayed with bleach and every other and she had been burned, i mean detective jaclyn shaklee: yeah, she had. keith morrison: was there actually any dna left? detective jaclyn shaklee: there actually was. it was it was pretty amazing. its amazing how resilient dna is. keith morrison : so, on a friday evening, just four days after lydias attack, the dna
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