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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:07:00

gary triano. it ron young was flown back to tucson, lupita murillo is one of the people who like to greet visitors at the airport. good to be back in tucson, sir? well not so good. did you kill gary triano sir? did you place that bomb? no, of course not. is pam phillips your accomplice? where was pam phillips? it turns out, she may have outsmarted everyone. by leaving the united states, just one month before authorities filed arrest warrants for her and ron young. she took what we believe was an innocent trip to switzerland, to visit her daughter. and she decided what, i m not coming back? i think when the news broke she made a conscious decision it would be best for her to stay in europe. but if you think she was living a rough life as a fugitive, think again. our cameras caught it

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:25:00

i knew gary was mad about, her positively in love with her. the wedding photographer, gary s friend, david bean. they look like they loved and cared about each other. but reporter lupita murillo says, behind gary s back, tucson was whispering. what did you hear? that she was a gold digger. that she married gary for his money. and that she broke up his marriage. reporter: it s common for people on the outside to talk about the new wife that way. remember, gary had left his first wife or pam. that alone spark some anger in the triano family. brian and heather are gary s kids from his first marriage. initially they were less than thrilled about their father remarrying. she was a step mom. let s be honest. we were teenagers. not happy about your parents getting divorced. but it was hard to deny that the marriage was working. we saw them together, they were happy. they seemed happy.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:12:00

i was just so in shock, like the rest of my family. that this could happen at all. you don t want to believe it. and you don t want to accept it. no one that i know was killed with a bomb. it was like something on television. it was a crime scene no one will soon forget. i just thought, oh my goodness. i can t believe this is happening in tucson, arizona. reporter: lupita murillo has covered the case for one decades. well she people kill each other for all kinds of things. exactly, but a car explosion at a posh resort. obviously, someone wanted to make a statement. so this is a powerful bomb? yes. pima county sheriff s detective detective james gamber and a alphabet soup of investigative agencies, including the fbi and atf

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