president lula has promised to fix the problem, telling the bbc that this summit would be a game changers. the world needs to look at the meeting here in belem is a milestone, the most important ever held to discuss the climate issue so it s a great opportunity for us to show the people of the world what we want to do. we have returned to govern brazil to try and make a difference. for those living under the rainforest canopy, like hobson, it s been a difficult few years. translation: you have no idea how much pressure - there was in our community under the bolsonaro government. landowners circling planes, soya farmers wanting to buy the land to deforest it. but hobson and his trees stood firm. he is growing sustainable crops instead. he s buying into a booming carbon credit industry, taking part in sustainable farming
approach to climate change, it is a win shift here. and it s about implementation 180. it s notjust about having the summit and it s about having the summit and it s about making it happen. satellite imaue about making it happen. satellite imagery revealed about making it happen. satellite imagery revealed that about making it happen. satellite i imagery revealed that deforestation has been reduced to about 66% in the brazilian amazon. president lula is leading the way in implementing the change but the challenges that we bring all countries together, not just in the amazon where there is taking place in indonesia, the democratic republic of the congo representative of which were invited here. the point is, we are moving far too slowly and not supporting with the right incentives to communities that actually live in the amazon given the united kingdom
take to his leadership on this. thanks for having it on the programme that i think you re right. president has charted a course for illegal deforestation here in brazil and he is a summit to bring the countries together and we have to chart a course to do this to avoid the tipping point in the amazon in the tipping point in the amazon in the message i been hearing from this extraordinary dialogue that the activists of government and extraordinary philanthropy is that we cannot do this without offering a pathway out of poverty and vulnerability for the more than 30 million people who live between the trees in the land here in the amazon. we cannot be the ones saying stop producing fossil fuels and stop illegal for stop producing fossil fuels and stop illegalfor a stop producing fossil fuels and stop illegal for a station stop producing fossil fuels and stop illegalfor a station and stop producing fossil fuels and stop illegal for a station and without those incentives and without that r
two weeks ago and they move immediately outside very quickly. there is a will nervousness and you could tell by the way the ground is shaking, we really altered strongly here so we knew it was going to be a significant magnitude and everybody is straight on to their phones, their mobile phones, trying to find out what happened, where the epicentre is, how strong the epicentre is, how strong the quake was, checking in on family and friends. i was on so many personal what subgroups with people in the middle east, asking how everybody was, checking everybody was safe and now it is a question of trying to work out what damage this latest quake may have caused. brazil s president inacio lula da silva has travelled to the state of sao paulo to visit areas affected by flooding and landslides that have left dozens dead. search and rescue efforts are continuing with people still thought to be trapped in the rubble of collapsed buildings. the bbc s tim allman reports. seeing for himself th