with . so it s been an interesting afternoon in moscow today with the russian president, addressing the ministry of defense. welcome to the program. it s on the international by the way. so vladimir putin says the west has been using all available means to disintegrate. relations with russia since the 2014 coo and ukraine food and also adding there is no chance of rebuilding ties just to preschool against the thank you. what s happening right now is a tragedies are no common tragedy, but this is not a result of russia s policies. it comes as a result of the policies of some 3rd countries that wanted to say it isn t a great us and undermine us. and so they pushed us to this limit. let me remind you that in 2014, 3 ministers of foreign affairs of ukraine, others bowlens of france and germany. they all came to keith and signs. they made us realize that no rush and people, no russian, because public officials or public figures, or journalists or whatever that were in any way rais