they re not alone. we will not defend them militarily. much like we didn t for budapest or the prague spring when the old soviet soon went in. that limits have to be demonstrated by our economic financial sanctions. all right. joe sestak, we will have you back on this. great resource. great to have you with us on the program. love youren sight. we want to turn to john saltz, veteran of the iraq war, chairman of votevets.org. good to have you on tonight. this dynamic between iraq and ukraine, it s totally different. the reasons are going to be different. do you think the american people would accept any kind of military advancement by the united states to protect nato s alliance. it s an interesting question. we say in the military we train to fight one war and we continue to train that way after the war s over and it doesn t prepare us for the next one. i think unfortunately here what