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well, the series editor of the shamima begum story isjonathan aspinwall, and we can talk to him now. thank you for coming on newswatch, jonathan. why did you think this was a podcast series worth making? i think this is an important podcast because of the forensic journalism around this particular story that we have done here at the bbc. it s a really important investigation into what shamima begum did and what she didn t do when she reached the islamic state territory. but it s also a retracing of herjourney from east london to turkey and then into syria and what exactly happened on that journey. it s important to stress that this is a story which is notjust told through challenging interviews with shamima begum. we then go and test what shamima begum has said with other eyewitnesses, with experts, and also with some of the victims of the islamic state. you see, people are saying, all very well, but is it to interview someone who joined a terror group to tell her story when

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