us all of people who were with jeffrey epstein. everybody loves to say, oh, my god, it s republicans. oh, my god, it s democrats, no, no, there aren t there. it gets back to a conversation we had before which is, the me too movement had its moment. much like the black lives matter, we have gotten a period of backlash. a lot of men were rightfully thrown, but a lot weren t. i think, sometimes, when we look back at history, we think of the lines. the montgomery bus boycott it does not work like that. it works in bursts. what i think dufresne s got to remember, she is the one fight the fight in the trenches. there is a time to remind us that there are bad guys out there so in positions of power. can i make an argument about maybe why she should be the mvp, whether we re talking hunter
rolls. are we a nation of laws? for me a constitution null republic? does the 14th amendment actually mean anything? here we are, one of those moments that really will become a defining moment in terms of what kind of nation it is. eddie, can i ask you really quickly, if my argument this is a political court where the political lies that happened but bush v. gore. i m curious about your perspective. has the supreme court has ever been a non political entity? no. the justices, this is for my professional justices are not justices. the supreme court are politicians. it s always been that way. your question was, what s at stake? i think this is the most important supreme court decision may be of our lifetime. it s similar to gore bush. they may be deciding whether or not donald trump can be president. i would say, i ve heard from a lot of scholars when we hear these cases all the time, this is the most consequential decisions the supreme court will ever make, whether or not donald
politics in america has become a sort of activism. activism is not fun. activism is heavy, activism with anger and sadness and conflict. when he taken activists culture to a place like academia, you get a lot of anxiety, a whole lot of depression and a whole lot of problems like we see today. what s the solution? it s more inquiry, more curiosity, more sense of intellectual adventure. these is one of the reasons that we need bring it on, comes next to me, i want to hear it. do you think that being a university president right now is being a wartime president, a culture war? i think it s an opportunity. i think it s a huge opportunity. by the way, being the president a hard one. a hard one because those are the best. if you are the president of the united states, your model should be, make america happy again. how will you do that? by loving your enemies and by laughing on tv and saying, i want this around myself of people who want to make this country happier, as opposed to
you can save. our nightcap is still with us. this week, the president of harvard university, claudine gay, stepped down. for a lot of people, it marked a new phase in the battle over diversity, equity, inclusion. eddie, you re a professor at princeton university, one of the greatest universities on the planet. you know this world. she was accused of plagiarism. there is now, like, an academic war over what plagiarism is. what do you make out of all of this? i think, you know, beyond the protection you learn, stephanie. this is about a lot of salt on education. we saw it at the level of primary school. now, it s a secondary education. whether it s banning
around for hundreds of years, and i ve had hard times in the past. we ll have our time to the future. but what do you think about it all? the problem is that the university has become an unhappy place. when you went to college, college was something, the attitude was alive and fun. now, a lot of colleges, the culture is more one of anger and sadness. okay, that s so interesting, just this week, when i interviewed the head of harvard princeton, i kept thinking, it s christmas break, the senior year. when i was in that position, i was just get getting ready for spring break, thinking about where i would work, but i was filled with joy and friendship. it s so heavy. it s very heavy. part of that is that it s a reflection of america today. you do so much sports stuff in politics. you notice no one is happy in politics. nobody laughs about politics, nobody has friendship in politics. there s a reason for this.