what a fantastic spot we have here in des moines, iowa. it s great to be with you today, everybody, i m martha maccallum. it is sunday, we don t usually see you on a sunday, but we re really excited to be here for the story in iowa, one day to go. so much on the line for all of these candidates and voters across the state as we kick off the 2024 presidential race now in earnest. here in iowa you have the ability to change the trajectory of american politics. vote for the candidate who s going to speak the truth to you. every step of the way we re moving because we re connecting with people, because we re talking about the issues they care about. the entire world will be listening to you, and i believe that iowa is going to speak loud and clear. you re first in the nation for a reason, it s important. martha: former president trump sitting comfortably atop the brand new des moines register poll, always very closely watched. this is a fierce race for second place at
i m skeptical of that. i think there are a lot of swing voters, independent voters who are the ball game for the 2024 general election who want to see a moderate, centrist democrat take on this craziness. i think there s an advantage to him take taking it on, but i think there are some within his administration that are very concerned and worried it ll dampen enthusiasm. i think that s a prepostif rouse. no matter which republican joe biden is up against, the left wing of his party will be motivated, so the president needs to convey that the he is on the side of middle america and middle america is not with that. martha: okay. here s speaker johnson. he tweeted about this or i put this on x, his message to government employees who plan to walk out on tuesday, he says they deserve to be fired. he said any government worker who walks a off the job to protest u.s. support for our ally, israel, is ignore thing their responsibility and abusing the trust of taxpayers. they deserve to be fire
91 counts that he was, that he has been brought up on? i think they re all a trumped up charges. i believe it s election interference because i know and everybody else knows, you know, he had he was the president. he had the power to take documents and things like that and declassify anything. so i just think that the democrats are running a smear campaign and trying any way they can to keep him from being elected. martha: you are going to caucus tomorrow night for vivek ramaswamy. finish he is not polling that a high at this point. obviously, it s very finish we see a lot of trump support. do you see something else going on on the ground? what do you think s going to happen tomorrow night? i still believe it s not the end. we re still waiting to see what is going to come out tomorrow. martha: tell me why you feel so strongly for vivek, and if you
and great to have an opportunity to talk to voters who will be caucusing tomorrow night. so i m sure it s going to be a great experience. first time you ve tone this, right? first time for me. martha: first time? first time. martha: can t wait to hear more about it. thank you very much for being here. enjoy the process. former president trump has just wrapped remarks a short time ago here in iowa. he did a rally, a lot got canceled yesterday due can to the weather, but he was out there today. congressman jim jordan joins me, he was there, and we ll talk to him. also with us, former house speaker ken mccaring think on kevin mccarthy on president biden s evolve ising history on an independent taiwan. this is a major issue. we ll speak with the former speaker coming up. each day is a unique blend of people to see and things to do. that s why you choose glucerna to help manage blood sugar response. uniquely designed with carbsteady. glucerna. bring on the day.
place category as you look at this as it s ready to unfold? you know are, i think at this point, martha, especially when you re dealing with a caucus as opposed to a primary or general election, i think it s too close to tell. i think we ve got drama in that department tomorrow martha: in second place. absolutely. and i also think a lot of this is going to depend on turnout. you know, there s can both those candidates, actually, all four of the leading campaigns have some very impressive turnout and organizational models, and our caucus is every bit an organizational competition as it is a popularity contest. so i think that story s yet to be written. martha: so i think the biggest turnout ever was, like, 186,000, somewhere in that neighborhood, right? i thought it was interesting that 15,000 the people turned out to watch the basketball game last night, so they were not deterred by the weather at all. and i doubt you re going to see a lot of deterrence. i bet you re going to g