psych and i told him what do you think? it was like, do you feel like you want to talk to him? i was, like yeah, i want some questions answered. so, he walked into the little room and saw his father for the first time in more than eight years. what s wrong with you? you forgot that? you don t even look the same. and ryan had a lot to say. you had a choice not to hurt me and richard. you had a choice not to her dear wife. why did you do that? i didn t hurt anybody. what did what are you talking about, you didn t hurt any one. look at me. i m looking at you, i m looking at you. i can t believe you, a man? my son, i don t believe don t call me your son, i don t want to hear. that your horrible person for what you did. i just want to let you know that. i didn t do anything. yes you did. i did not. was it hard to tell your dad
write america s most wanted. and, they raised to 55,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of the suspect. all of it led to nothing. how many other cases do you need in those areas? a lot of murders. but, something about this on stuck with the. absolutely. was it something about area that may do not want to quit? you don t ever want to quit on any case but i think that the fact that she came so close to being an independent woman to standing up herself, to being the kind of mother that she wanted to be to those voice. and, she did everything right. she died on her watch. it was a terrible feeling. terrible feeling. it was 2010, nearly six years after the murder when richard made another of his many phone calls to the westminster pd. this time, it was james wilson
and, at the same time, one thing had to be crystal clear. you want to make sure that everybody knows that we re talking about the crime that occurred about his wife being murdered in that particular house. that couldn t be left to him. a risky plan and no guarantees it would work. true, the a lot of da s may not go for an operation like that? yes. sonia wanted a win. she wasn t filled to fill. i was very nervous to say the least. he had then taken nine years to get to this moment, a team of cops watched and videotape does the undercover approach mccarthy. they re stepping out of the corona. everyone was on edge except for the men casted in the role of the money. you had to be going over in your mind, like, if he says, this if he does, this i m going to know, things come out spontaneously, you have to be
nightmares, i get chills, i don t like to be at home by myself, i have trouble sleeping. i mean, the list goes on. ryan and richard say that they had a growing suspicion their father was responsible for their mother s murder. they said that they were too scared to confront. but, in the months that followed, the investigation seemed to stall. seems like you had a lot of leads that kind of hadn t gone anywhere. we had a lot of paths that we went down, yes. remember, there was no physical evidence linking mccarthy to the murder. ryan said it was two black men that broke into the health and killed his mom. police had never found those men or any trace they ever existed. and, those threatening messages to ryan? still no idea who sent, them either. was there a point where you, thought maybe this wouldn t be
who answered. he had been a patrol officer at the time of the murder. but, in the intervening years, he worked his way up to detective. i really didn t have very good answers for him. what s going on with my mom s case? what are you guys doing on my mom s case? and, i know there s nothing really going on with my mom s case. so, i just started looking into it. a lot of guilt? i think, in obligation really. that s one of the reasons why you become a police officer, tell people like that. and, as detective wilson port through the mountain of evidence on the case, he came across that interview, detectives had with ryan. right after the murder. reading through the transcripts, he saw a key detail that no one had noticed. you said you get this guy? yeah. on the hand, was it on the hand or through a glove or ? i think it was through the glove. but he had to take off the glove to put on the tape. ryan was telling detectives the intruder took his gloves off before handling t