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tale. this obamacare, socialized medicine was never popular, never, particularly when it was just a theoretical proposition. now that it is actual reality and people are seeing rise in taxes, rise in health care costs, their premiums, their deductibles, loss in in insurance, seeing less access to their doctors, they re saying this whole thing will cost more to the country as a whole and drive up the deficit and the debt they are now really opposing in stronger numbers that we ve ever seen. now that it is reality and directly affecting people s lives you re seeing these numbers get worse for the president, worse for the law and worst for the leftover all because socialized medicine is the crown jewel of the welfare state. jon: did you dispute any of that, basil? i don t know i would go so far as to call it socialized medicine of the what i will say this and will concedings the fear in the long term we re getting to a system in health care, interestingly enough more nationalized and mo