president, who really at the very beginning and up till recently said that there was no collusion and you won t find anything. basically this is all made up by the democrats. this is something here. and when you look for something, you re going to find something. it seems people are finding it. mueller is finding something. so the question is how long and who will be involved and where will the tentacles point to in all of this. yeah. the president s lopping time adviser who served as director of oval operations keith shirley will be interviewed tomorrow about a 2013 trip that trump took to moscow. this trip is the center of the allegations included in the dossier about the president. shirley left the white house in september. what was the answer given at the time here, david. again, they sort of played down the trip, that this was not of significance. the problem is there s so many officials having contacts with the russians. there s the papadopoulos thing.