thinks there s a deep state, spies all around him. in this case, people he could be working closely with who were so concerned about what they were seeing that they were telling other people that this could have represented an abuse of power. that s why you see him lashing out today and essentially saying, wow. these people should be handled and handled harshly. jen, you, woulded in the obama white house and state department. what was your read on how this was handled? both the call and then white house officials? obviously seeming to know they had a problem on their hands, putting the transcript where normally not politically sensitive but actually like intelligence matters sensitive information was put? and in a period of 48 hours there s been a lot of striking and shocking information, i think two pieces there s going to be a long tale on, the web of people what was happening and their role in this. i was at the white house eight years. at least hoalf worked with the national se