noticing? well, yeah. it is well known after this raid the pakistanis were absolutely humiliated and that because of the inscident and this operation, our cooperation with them essentially ceased. it was the lowest point in u.s./pak relations maybe in history. what i can t understand here is why the isi leadership, the military leadership would put forward a story that made them look incompetent and was completely humiliating to them. that is the part that defies lodge ic and also remember chris, if there were a walk-in source, there was a protracted conversation between the senate intelligence committee, the cia and the white house about what role torture or detainee interrogations played in the effort to find bin laden. you have to believe that if the senate dems found a pakistani source, a walk-in, anything of that nature they would have put that evidence forward in their effort to say detainee