that over the past few days has been amassed. that s everything from phone and e-mail to locational information. from that hotel, i also think you d be looking for video of him in the room. is he bringing, for example, material in the room that suggests he had weapons in there. my point is, over the course of the last few days, you have information about that we re seeing publically about where he was. why he rented rooms. publicly the questions for those of motivation. why did he rent there. behind the scenes of the investigation i m saying, how does that match up with who he called, who he texted, who he e-mailed. were there financial transactions at that time. does his phone have a gps raerd that shows me where he was walking around. you re building a three dimensional picture of his life, what we re seeing is about 2%. the tip of the iceberg. yes. anderson, to phil s point,
you get a volume of information after the identification of the subject. that s everything from phone and e-mail to locational information. from that hotel, i also think you d be looking for video of him in the room. is there material that suggests he had weapons in there. over the course of the last few days, you have information about where he was. why he rented rooms. publicly the questions for those of motivation. why did he rent there. i m saying, how does that match up with who he called, who he texted, who he e-mailed. were there financial transactions at that time. you re building a three dimensional picture of his life, what we re seeing is about 2%. the tip of the iceberg. yes. sun suh the famous chinese general famously said, that just
choices about how to interrogate a terrorist than our intelligence community does. ed: can you clarify for us then on the point that abby was just asking about why you believe that waterboarding is not torture because the president agrees with you it is not torture and that it works. you were there, if i recall it right and correct me khalid sheikh mohammed you were there for the waterboarding. you clearly believed that worked. that prevented terror attacks. it did. i think too much emphasis is placed on waterboarding. we only waterboarded three people. and, in fact, i m one of the guys that was suggesting to the cia after that second wave of attacks was sufficient live disrupted that we not waterboard other people because you don t need to be doing that willy-nilly to get information, locational information. it s not the waterboarding that i think was probably the most effective thing that was done.
it s the entire process. remember, abu zaida worked with us for 1609 days. he was only subjected to eit s for 14 days. that s two weeks. out of another like 220 weeks? ed: that was valuable information the u.s. government got. and now this judge is allowing some of these terror detainees as i understand it to move forward with a lawsuit against you, and potentially others who work for the cia saying that, you know, here you were trying to protect america and now a judge is saying you might, you know, this lawsuit begins you pushed by terror detainees might move forward? yeah. if you got a second, i would like to explain that. abby: please do. i have never heard of two of these people who are suing me until the lawsuit showed up in 2015. one of them is a terrorist who was a member of al qaeda in east africa.