tested, we have to pay out of our own pocket. how is that reasonable? charles: no. some things have to happen. thanks. i m sorry. i apologize. i m out of time. i appreciate your candidness and i hope someone in charge is paying attention to your concerns. thanks very much. i have to switch gears here. not everyone is opposed to the requirements for vaccinations or testing. new york city teamster local 237 union president gregory floyd says that the mandate is a responsibility. thanks for joining. i m not sure if i heard your colleague, oren but he brought us serious concerns. perhaps members of your own union don t share the concerns. the mixed messages, the fact that the emergency approval for the vaccine. some people are not happy that it s not received an official approval just yet.
require vaccinations or covid testing for municipal employees starting mid september. the mandate is dividing unions across the city. my next guest says the order ignores workers civil liberties. new york city s union president joins me now. he represents emts, paramedics and fire inspectors. thank for joining me. the damage that covid did to new york city to shut down and now with this delta variant rising the way it is, you still are resistant to mandatory vaccinations. why? just want to be clear first. we re not telling people not to get the vaccine. all we re saying is it should be an individual decision. people should have a right of what is being injected into their body. you know, there s so much