with donald trump, it has nothing to do with the campaign and nothing to do with the election for president of the united states. absolutely right. the thing is to remember here that mr. gates and paul manafort were involved in deep business connections with these agents for quite some time. they had a dizzying array of tax fraud that tax liens and loan businesses that they had on one another that required him to be in constant contact with their former associates as i understand paul manafort was even trying to use his position in order to alleviate him $18 million debt that he at one point owed. so does get very complicated here. it seems to be largely localized at paul manafort, gates and illegal efforts to lobby on behalf of foreign powers and really to avoid paying the irs the multimillions of dollars that they had in lobbying on behalf of foreign governments.