what will it take to beat the former president for the nomination, and are the polls like to deter others from getting in. let s ask one of his 2016 rivals, john kasich is the foreigner governor of ohio, and newly an msnbc political analyst. welcome, governor. it s good to see you. well, chris, you can see the background where i am, your old alma mater. i know your office is there. we can talk about that another time, let s talk politics now. we know a thing or two about running against donald trump. in your 2016 campaign, which i occasionally covered, one of your most reliable applause lines was a promise that you would not take the low road to the white house. do you think there s anything that ron desantis or any other candidate can learn from donald trump s previous runs? well, i don t think you ever take the load road to anything in order to achieve something, chris. and look, if i had to pinpoint
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actually starting to back down into some canyons that could make some big runs and that s where we get large fires spread. reporter: some good news overnight. the fire containment jumped up a couple percentage. now it s 7%. but that acreage is still very high. more than 126,000 acres burned. the firefighters have a load road ahead. they get 4 million tourists a year. any indication that some of them may be staying away. i know you say a lot of people haven t canceled but do you think that could change or are they still enjoying themselves in. reporter: well anytime you have a fire associated with their name, that s the concern. and i think for tourist officials there in the park, they want to get away from that as far as they can. but fire officials we ve spoken to and cnn has talked to, they say at least in the very heavily populated areas, there s very
and put the additional troops in and should get additional support. chris: brit, i want to hit a couple of subjects, big story in the washington post this weekend, khalid, the self-proclaimed master mind of 9/11 will likely remain in military detention and not face trial in either a civilian or a military court until after the 2012 elections. what do you make of that. it is a sign the policies out lined for dealing with terror suspects doesn t work. they wanted to try him in federal court and couldn t and for all the political when the haggling was over with they couldn t pull it off. it was a a failure. where will you try him? no place in the continental u.s. where anybody would accept it. so, what will they do? try him in guantanamo bay? my god, that would be a political confession of the utter foolishness of their whole policy and will put the kick the can down the load road and