what s going on here? i thought the democrats were the ones who really cared? they do. and we would be supportive if trump did what he says he s going to do and put in reform and job programs in there and helps educate a lot of the kids in the inner city so they don t have to see a prison cell. that would be great, but the problem is there s rhetoric on both sides. donald trump talks a lot but he has yet to do anything about it. laura: for prison reform, you have to have democrats in congress actually agree to work with him on this. he s not going to be able to wave a magic wand and get this done on his own. this is a congressional push. they talked about this for years. now you have a president who actually wants to do it. they brought in faith leaders, they are bringing in folks from the business community and they want to get this done. so are you saying that democrats with this president despite what elizabeth warren is saying, that they will actually work with people like jare
murder and now they are just beating a dead horse and they want to go after him and they want to make sure if somebody has got to be guilty. at the reality is, where are the guilty people? it s the drug dealers that are on the mexican side. if the drug dealers that were bringing drugs into our country. that s where they need to look for guilt. laura: but they are retrying the border agent. they are retrying the border agent for i guess it s manslaughter. art, i want to go to you on this. there s a circuit split and i m trying to be the log he care but the fifth circuit court of appeals ruled no, you do not as a non-citizen, have a institutional right to bring an action in federal court against a federal agent. you can imagine where this is going to go, that non-citizens are going to be able to sue for, i don t know, denial of h 1 b
unaccompanied minors. and if that s not a crisis i don t know what is. so what changed? just about six months ago president trump was telling us on national tv that the immigration issue, illegal immigration was down records, that the problem was in essence solved and when he couldn t even get congress to act on deferred daca. stds we can keep on chasing our tails like we have been for about 20 or 22 years, or we can get down and do something about it. laura, you and i have plenty of common ground and we just can t scare the population into paralysis by indecision, which is what we have. let me ask you a question, when you say you can t scare the population, here s the bottom line. if you want asylum you go to a port of entry, you ask for asylum. if you want to come to america and you get in line like everybody else. what is wrong with that? what is wrong nothing wrong. nothing wrong. laura: we are not doing that. except there is no line. there is no line. laura: yes, the
president regarding article two powers, you are a constitutional lawyer. the answer to that is no. laura: they want more information, more documents. that would be a big fight. daniel goldman, former assistant u.s. attorney in the southern district commented on the concern that he says your team has about putting the president under question. let s watch. they are absolutely right to be concerned that if the president were to go into an interview with incredibly well-prepared prosecutors who have not just the president s tweets and his own statements, but as rudy giuliani correctly pointed out, millions of documents, testimony from dozens of witnesses. they know the back story much better than any of us sitting here know it. and when they question donald trump he would lie within the first 30 seconds. laura: that s being repeated. can i respond to his statement? let me tell you something, where do you think the special counsel received the millions of documents and the witness
our legal team. we ll go back to the perjury trap. it s not going to happen. but the question is, could they structure a series of questions that the president should answer under article 2 of the constitution, i think the hurdle is very high for them and they haven t established it at this point. laura: if you are debriefed or a legal team, emmet flood, has this artie been briefed in the event that this does go to court? you ve known me for a long time. i don t just deal with a plan a to plan b. so the issue, which you are pointing to, if there was an issuance of a subpoena, a serious question and i do not think the justice department has the authority in this case and would authorize it because bob mueller is not an independent counsel, he can t do that himself. are we ready to go to court if we had to? you bet. do i think we are going to have to? i don t think so. if we do what we will do it. i mean, look, you ve got to protect not just this president but the is itsy. presiden