what's going on here? i thought the democrats were the ones who really cared? >> they do. and we would be supportive if trump did what he says he's going to do and put in reform and job programs in there and helps educate a lot of the kids in the inner city so they don't have to see a prison cell. that would be great, but the problem is there's rhetoric on both sides. donald trump talks a lot but he has yet to do anything about it. >> laura: for prison reform, you have to have democrats in congress actually agree to work with him on this. he's not going to be able to wave a magic wand and get this done on his own. this is a congressional push. they talked about this for years. now you have a president who actually wants to do it. they brought in faith leaders, they are bringing in folks from the business community and they want to get this done. so are you saying that democrats with this president despite what elizabeth warren is saying, that they will actually work with people like jared kushner, who is also spearheading this effort? will they do it? >> hopefully.