death was a murder, the history of that marriage and divorce told them exactly what happened. when asked at the scene what i thought, my answer was i think he did it. the husband? yes. absolutely. no problems. the very same lloyd who had calmly and clearly volunteered so much information to investigators. she was just completely out of control. demeanor. what are you hearing in that? he was very cooperative. would you like me to move up a little? no, you re fine. are you sure? police had reason to believe michele died sometime after midnight saturday going into sunday. so the question, where was lloyd? tell me the way you came up at first. to go to rochester. he told police he d driven up from new jersey to rochester to help karrie move into her college apartment. she couldn t fit everything into the car. so i had totes back in princeton that i had to bring. so, when i arrived on saturday, i went to the apartment and i unloaded her car. her stuff.
she stormed out of the house, taking her teenage sister with her. not all that unusual. police learned that raised voices in that household were sadly routine. a bad divorce with kids caught in the middle. this is, as they say, a house that s known to law enforcement? yes. there have over the years, been 911 calls to the location? probably in the course of two or three years a dozen, a little more than a dozen calls. so chief, i m thinking even with this brief history you have, fragmentary history of trouble inside the house, mother, daughter, something s going on, it does maybe give you an explanation of why she s a death by suicide. exactly. investigators also got in touch with michele s ex-husband lloyd, who lived in new jersey. he was rushing to upstate new york to be with his daughters. the last time i spoke with her i couldn t even say. lloyd told a detective by phone he wasn t completely surprised to hear the news. he said that despite her cheery demeanor, michel
father, it was as though the spell was broken. karrie flipped and decided to testify against her father. at what point did your dad first approach with you this plan? now she gave a second, even more detailed confession, and prepared to be the star witness at her father s murder trial. and a new wrenching detail. she had helped move her mother s dead body. we dragged her around the corner and he tied the rope to the one prong of the banister and lifted her up, and we both threw her over the side. i m sorry. that s okay. but her dad s trial never happened. lab results came back showing the ex-husband s dna was all over michele s bed clothes in that house he claimed never to have been inside. in october of 2018, lloyd neurauter pleaded guilty to murder one. i was stunned. he gave it up. he told us exactly what happened. lloyd gave a full statement. owning up to being the master manipulator that friends and family said they d witnessed
then put the rope around her neck and hanged her. karrie s job was to disable any security devices and to distract her younger sister, asleep downstairs. totally unaware of what was going on. she woke up. so i had to take her out. i was freaking out. i didn t know what was going on. then i put her in my car. now, we had the framework of the story together now. i mean, what a bombshell. in the room and the ears that are listening at this point. at that point we re shell-shocked. at last the authorities had enough to arrest lloyd. he d left work, seemingly unnerved by his chat with the fbi. and new jersey state police had tailed him as he drove to the top of a five-story parking garage, got out of his car, and sat on a ledge. apparently, suicide seemed a better option than prison. and there he is out on the ledge. on the ledge? five stories down on the
brainwashing. of a controlling father who poisoned his daughters minds with the drip drip of a phony story that went on for years. that their mother was no good. crazy. that they d all be better off with her out of the picture. a father s manipulation that went all the way back to ballet class days and probably earlier. what flashed back to me was that time i saw a 7-year-old karrie standing front and center, shaking, and i personally believe it was this accumulation of control. i felt that she had been brainwashed. and looking back, michele s mom is now certain it was lloyd who was behind the unexplained rift with her daughter. i think that he d already started alienating her, manipulating her mind. putting a false narrative in her head about who she was and who her people were? i have often referred to him as jim jones. it s almost cult leaderesque