tucker: well, you may not have heard about this since apparently it s not a big news story somehow. ufos turn out to be real we are not kidding. recently the new york times revealed a secret 22-million-dollar program that investigated the up identified flying object. doesn t mean they are from out of space. they re not identified and they are flying and they are objects. they found multiple aircraft encounters they could not explain and storing metal alloy. liz mccain wrote about this in the new york times that question and also wrote a book called ufo, generals, pilots and government officials go on the record. she spent years investigating the ufos with the former chief of staff by the way john podesta. leslie joins us tonight. thanks for come on. thanks for having me, tucker. tucker: that piece vindicated a lot of work that you have been doing for an awful lot of time. it got my attention and i stopped making fun of people like you and started paying