administration can do, but i think they need to make the case. remember at the height, martha, of the problems that the british had with terror attacks from the ira, they created a special set of courts named for a fabled british judge named lord diplock. they didn t use the formal process for certain signs of cases. rehave military tribunals to try suspects but this administration has been very much disinclined to go that route with other cases. we ve tried a lot of cases successfully through our normal criminal justice system. but the argument this has certainly resumed the argument whether that is an adequate way ta to go and whether it 0 wouldn t be better to declare him a even knee combatant. you can try him in either place if you call him that. we ll have a serious debate over
most people aren t aware that a number of chechens were arrested in france as part of a broader spain that was rolled up in spain last summer. we want to make sure that there is not a more significant plot against usz. us. and we need to who who are the the associates, foreign, domestic, marry those up and go where it takes us. martha: he was very active on twitter and social media this younger brother. do you think that the younger brother knew had these associates or do you think some of that knowledge died with his older brother? you know, i think right now there is a lot of unknown. but clearly when you look at the activity the older brother was engaged in, this is there are a lot of telltale indicators here. i mean he was engaged in jihadi websites, espousing some of their views. time will tell. when you talk about why the fata region in pakistan and
it s not dead, but this attack will to some extent stall progress on it further. martha: you listen to the sunday shows and you see the division over whether or not this is a change for our country, this attack. whether or not we are living in an environment that looks more like israel and great britain under the ira where these sort of things happen and we become used to them. that is not a reality that any of us want to accept in this country. i wonder if the administration which side of this they will fall on. i think we will see from eric holder what their take is really on this when it comes down to the way it s prosecuted. any guthrie action to whether or not this gut reaction to whether or not this signals a change. reporter: i think they will say to try this american citizen through the normal civil courts, civilian criminal courts, and that may have a harder sell. i m not saying that is not what is going to happen, i m not saying that is not what the
honor them this thursday down the road at baylor university, a large memorial service will be held. we are expecting firefighters in from all over the country. they are working to organize flights and accommodations for all of those firefighters who will take part, and also law enforcement officers who also take part in that, and, bill, we ve got 70 investigators here on the ground who are working to figure out exactly what started that fire last wednesday that led up to the explosion. bill: they have lived through a week they will never nor get. thank you h. fox austin on scene there in west. martha. martha: it took approximately 24 hours for the president to declare the boston bombings as an act of terror. this is raising questions once again about whether or not the white house is wary of using that term. we are going to talk about that in a panel coming up. bill: also there are thousands of people seen running for their lives out after a scare at a massive festival. we ve tell you
far too young, krystle campbell. martha: the boston bombings have raised concerns that the lines are blurring between u.s. and foreign terror plots. this as investigators look into whether tamerlan tsarnaev may have been trained overseas last year in chechnya. it s something that experts say is happening more and more. you ve got 60 plots at least that they know of that have involved home-grown terrorists since 9/11. fortunately most of them have been thwarted but not this time. we were not so lucky. i am joined by a former special assistance to the president for homeland security and associate vice president at george washington university and director of the homeland security policy institute. frank, well cox. good to have you here. thank you, martha, thanks. martha: you ve seen a lot in your career. what does your gut tell you about whether or not they were part of anything larger or whether or not they had anything else planned. you know the threat today comes in various shapes