social insurance programs are on a path toward insolve ven see. insolve ven see. bingo. that is brilliantly put. nick, thank you very much. speaking of the star of this ad, allen simpson. allen simpson will be here. we are heading to him. it is for a little version of dc s thunder dome. we can try to get some answers on this tau on this debacle. and yes i might dance. i might. meanwhile rage from the guys making the machines. the national association is out with a new survey is with a sharp decline with optimism. jake timmons is the group s ceo. is this stuff, whatever you want to call it affecting their mood?