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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211030 08:54:00

he was constantly trying to get her to get her to go out with him and toni. and she was fully aware that she was public enemy number one as far as toni was concerned. she just said i don t i don t get it. it s not right. something s just wrong. costanzo family said mickey would never have gone with kody and toni voluntarily and there is evidence of that. the zip tie found around mickey s arm. something else, mickey s family is convinced that toni and kody knew that the few days around the time of the murder were the only days they d find mickey alone after school. the timing was too perfect. it was the one time, the one time that d.j. was at college. christina and donald were at nascar. i was at work. it s the one time in all of this time that micaela would have

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211030 08:55:00

actually had to walk home. which when we heard that made us wonder in our interview did toni slip and reveal a hidden truth? remember, she claimed she was an abused woman and unwilling accomplice there only out of fear, but listen to this. does it indicate the very planning revealed in kody s statement to the d.a., planning that included picking a place for the showdown? when we finally got out to the designated area and everything what do you mean the designated area. where everything went down. that area was designated? well, just the area where we ended up. no plan to go there, insisted toni. so designated area, maybe, maybe not, but also a festering jealousy, scores of text messages, a zip tie and one more explosive ingredient, an affair. police revealed that kody had

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211030 08:52:00

conferred briefly and kody stopped talking and changed his mind and rejected the plea deal and never told his story again and his statement was filed away, but olson who never disputed that kody was involved does have his own opinion about what probably happened at the gravel pits. my guess would be that there was an opportunity for toni to confront micaela. and they went out to the desert to have the confrontation away from prying eyes. i think something bad happened. a bad idea that became a screw up. a bad idea that became a horrible idea. a bad idea that went very, very bad. was it an idea hatched on the spur of the moment? who knows? at least not according to d.j. who said she witnessed the hostility escalate for months. she heard toni bad-mouth mickey time and again and she saw toni kody play one nasty prank

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211030 08:05:00

attorney-client relationship with kody s lawyers, no privilege, no protection. so they turned her statement over to law enforcement and when the detective donald burner reviewed the transcript of toni s confession. i determined we had probable cause to arrest her just based on her own admission. toni fratto just 18 was booked, held without bail, facing perhaps a capital murder charge, same as kody. i, in my heart of hearts knew toni had something to do with it because they were a couple. it was very hard for me to know she was at school wearing his engagement ring, acting like nothing had happened and she knew nothing about it when i knew she knew. i said, i am so glad that she is now sitting and facing what he is. now now it makes sense. but little toni fratto hardly seemed like a killer. she was a beauty queen at 13.

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