was struggling. i always thought i was pretty empathetic, emphatic. i think i was very, excuse me, empathetic. you know, that s an example of the stroke, empathetic. before having a stroke. but now after having that stroke is, i really understand, you know, much more kind of the challenges that americans have day in and day out. what you saw and heard there, the auditory processing challenges, the speech challenges howard: the nbc correspondent also shared this observation with her viewers we did find that in small talk before the interview without captioning it seemed it was difficult for fetterman to understand our conversation. howard: this prompted a fierce backlash. podcaster kara swisher called burns account just nonsense. maybe this reporter was just bad at small talk. new york magazine offered up a cover story on fetterman saying his comprehension is not at all impaired. he understands everything. burns didn t suggest otherwise, but plenty of stories have r
but yet it wasn t until a few days later that everybody or, including president biden, called on her to resign her seat that she finally did so. and then in her resignation letter that she begins with saying she s heart broken about it, goes on to say she hopes she will inspire little latina girls around the country to be a leader like that. and at no point does she even mention the the tape in her resignation letter. howard: yeah. relate me jump in. the real question is, howie, who made that reporting and who leaked it? howard: right. we don t know the answer to it. somehow it made its way to the los angeles times. that remains a mystery. look, the white council member at issue here, mike bonnen, said we were appalled, angry and absolutely disgusted that martinez attacked our son with racist slurs, and i don t want to lose sight of that. she talked about short, dark people, indigenous mexicans coming to l.a. s koreatown, and the national media attention, i would think, has got to be