and slide around as was described earlier. with it sliding left to right, left to right as thrust reversers are trying to push back. literally tlufrting, like you turned the engine back the other way and throttled up to go back the other way and combat that. this pilot had a lot on his hands to land in those situations. i m told there s a picture i haven t seen yet. try to put that up. and miles it looks torn up. explain what we re seeing there. waiting for the delay in my cable to give me picture. what i am seeing though is yeah. that is that material, it s designed to allow a typical truck or people or whatever to walk over it on normal day but weight of aircraft it sinks through and arrests the forward