and, you know, after i ve gone to visit damien, there are days and stretches and, you know, that experience resonates and stays within you. and i think it s one of the reasons i ve really tried to do everything i could for the case and stay close with lorri and dennis and everybody involved. because it really it s it stuck with me. i think about it a lot. and, and especially sometimes when i m in open spaces. he s on my shoulder. i m thinking about him a lot. and what i can tell you though, larry, is that his development within these incredibly small confines and an atmosphere of, you know, literal hell, he s grown as a person. he s grown intellectually and spiritually. he s a passionate he s passionate about learning.