uneducated. is it efficient not to address poverty first and educate kids who enter into kindergarten with 17,000 listening vocabulary. i agree poverty is a very big factor. if we can invest in early childhood education and make sure kids are coming to school fed and getting breakfast and lunch. if we can make sure there are community programs and arts programs to address the trauma of violent neighborhoods and things like that, it can happen on the same track to pursuing education reforms that lift up achievement. matt farmer, chicago public school parnlt, thanks for being here. julie cavanagh, thank you for joining us. what does it mean to be poor? coming up next, we ll talk about it. a thing that helps you buy other things. but plenty of companies do that. so we make something else. we help make life a little easier,