newest nato members in the coming months. a lot of changes taking place in europe. defense secretary austin trying to rally these 40 countries to get more heavy weaponry, more lethal aid, more aid in general to president zelenskyy and the ukraine government. dana. dana: really looking forward to your interview and we ll be watching it. bill: the u.n. secretary general visiting moscow meeting in person with putin. pushing for an immediate cease-fire in ukraine. good luck for that. karen pierce back with us today. ambassador to the u.k. good morning to you. thank you, good morning. bill: listening to secretary austin describe the length of the battle of the bulge, on and on it goes day 63 today. the biggest question first. if nato and the united states are providing billions of dollars in military aid in ukraine, how does this war end do you believe?