but you are seeing that resurgency grow and i expect to continue to do so. what are you basing that off of governor? we are not seeing that in the numbers at this point. you are not seeing that when you go to iowa, new hampshire and you talk to voters. you hear some concerns but overwhelmingly based on these new numbers, he is still the dominant force in your party despite those indictments. whenever you see campaign rallies, there is incredible turnout. he brings a real entertainment value to his campaign. but whenever you look at winning in 2024, there is a recognition that will be problematic with trump leading the ticket, not just in his campaign but down the way. the debate is very important. the debate is going to bring out many of these facts. i am doubtful that donald trump will show up on the debate, because i expect to be there, i plan on being there, and these are facts that will be brought out and that he will not be
i m joined by one of those republican candidates in the race, former arkansas governor lisa hutchinson. thank you for being so here with us tonight. now the republican front runner says he s gonna be indicted any day now. why aren t these indictments hurting him with your party s voters? while, they are. even though he has a grip on the campaign, on his candidacy, it s a loosening grip. there is a growing resurgent effort against the trump gop establishment, and that resurgent effort is growing, it s because he has misled his supporters. he told them that i am fighting for you, that is really asking them to fight for him by paying his legal fees when she s used $60 million of campaign funds that he solicited from small donors across america to play legal fees. these facts as they come out are going to slow his campaign down. the last place you see it will probably be in the poll numbers.
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to own this for a generation to come. they are embracing someone who is now facing multiple indictments. one possibly for trying to topple our own democracy. so i think the important thing is that who else is in the field? we know the qualitative assessments to be made of donald trump. we know where will hurd stands on. that went desantis and others suggest that they, indeed, would pardon the former, president it raises the question, is there actually much light of day between donald trump, the actor himself, on january 6th, and all the other candidates who may, indeed, give him a pass for his activities? and the republican party is in an odd place, historically. but they remain competitive. the american people will be the ultimate deciders come next november. let s talk about the other candidates, don, i want to bring you in. isa hutchinson was the only other candidate even mention trump. yet, notably, the former president started his speech by attacking one of his rivals. desantis,
real challenge if they refuse to run against trump? they won t even name him? well, look, i think there is a danger that republican candidates face. there is a complete disconnect between their base and critique of donald trump. so what these candidates are wrestling with, how do i maintain the base, and at the same time, criticize the front runner. they haven t been able to figure that. out i don t think they can. because i think that base is very solidly behind donald trump. and is not interested, as you can see, from the remarks towards will hurd, they are not interested in hearing any criticism of the former president. so without, that the candidates who are offering a critique, will, her isa hutchinson, chris christie, they are sitting down at the bottom of the barrel, in the polls. and it is not likely but that is going to have any impact. any measurable impact on the