and, uh, we re foreseeing that we re going to be able to start the lion guardian project, which basically you hire maasai to protect the lions rather than kill them. anthony: with all the cattle the maasai people have, how do you protect them from predators? ole: the animals are very smart about, if you do not bother them, they do not bother you. anthony: so, how about when they re grazing? ole: uh-huh. when they re grazing we have people who follow out. anthony: and that s enough to discourage hyenas or lions? ole: mm-hmm. mm-hmm. hmm. yes, yes. but sometimes they re happy lions. so, they making allowed to show themselves that they are very happy and the way to make that they say [ lion noise ] that s when they get happy, you know? and that s if they just like to catch something, you can hear very close, only like [ lion purring noise ] and they ll stop or they ll sound a lot like a