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he still raped me. that sort of encapsulated the back and forth of that whole cross-examination. she didn t back down. she cried. she was emotional. she remembered details. sixth floor, lingerie department. the jury again based on the preponderance of evidence not beyond a reasonable doubt found her more credible and on the other hand, you have former president trump coming to testify may or may not have made a difference but he did testify in that deposition. in the access hollywood tape. they heard his side of the story. they saw him. they were able to assess his demeanor. in that deposition. they know him although they were told to put their political allegiances to the side. but he was there. they took a measure of him and they found him essentially liable for just about everything here. we have that deposition. we ll play it in a moment. just to bring you back into that
she was breathless and hyperventilating. her attorneys called her friend, who she called five minutes after, lisa bernbok, and she was there to corroborate carroll s story. she provided some vivid details, saying she remembered it was in the kitchen, it s between 6:00 and 7:00 p.m., she was feeding her little kids and got this call from carroll who was hyperventilating, emotional, and it said it sounded like she had a jolt of adrenaline going through her body. and carroll recounted to her the same story we heard carroll testify to. the meeting at the revolving door, going upstairs to the lingerie department, and that s where she said she was assaulted. and her friend told her, e. jean, she raped you and you need to go to the police. and she said, no, no, we got into a fight, and let s not talk about this again. they also called another woman who was not associated with e. jean carroll, but she said she was assaulted by trump on an airplane in 1979. and she provided this testimony say
assault. she testified carroll was breathless and hyperventilating when she told her what happened. burnbach said she urged carroll to go to the police, but carroll refused, and asked her not to bring up the assault again which neither of them did for more than 20 years. joining me now from outside the u.s. district court in new york city is nbc news correspondent ron allen. so, ron, talk me through what you ve seen today. right now on the stand is robert sirlano who was in the 1990s senior vp at bergdorf goodman and was brought in by carroll s attorneys to explain how the store was open late thursday nights which is when she believes this attack happened, that it wasn t a very busy place on those thursday nights and that the lingerie department where it happened was out of the way on the sixth floor and there weren t usually sales associates there and you