before, a huge part of this. and a huge part of a complex website that needs to be baked in ahead of time. but there were so many cooks in the kitchen, it s hard to point fingers at who would have been in charge in putting forward certain privacy applications. i m absolutely clear. i keep hearing 500 million lines of code. to be comparative, to send out the mars rover, it was 500,000 lines of code. am i wrong? that s the number that s going on. okay. they re saying 5 million lines of code need to be fixed. that s the number that s going zblar around. thank you. 5 million corrections needed as opposed to 500 million have to be thrown out with the bath water. thank you, laurie. thank you, joe johns. someone here who knows about a thing or two to working with presidents who find themselves in hot water or in a crisis anyway. was working in the clinton administration and also happens to be a crisis manager, big-time
comprehensive bill. it passed in june. mmmh..evybody ows that., di tolcdonal prp only atagainst e dis new code, wch c to-e security t, ns thousan of linesf 68 68-32. 14 republicans voted for it. house politics are quite different. as you and i have discussed many mber two, you re not even sure if your pce igóemoc iormation times what might not be popular informatn e. d heari ttnd leade across the country could be popular in individual congressmen and congresswomen districts. sure. especially the tea party sd. caucus. i think demographics is the the y we rescued rileys a truly. only answer i can give you. darrell issa this morning, conservative republican from california has said he will relea release temporary to undocumented immigrants now in the united states. you ve probably heard the you can see, of course he is from the state of california, name tilikum, the killer whale. he s about 32 year old and he s right? i think there will be lots of the largest and oldest orca in m
properly. it s easy to get trapped in but important to talk about. he was pointing out to one of the witnesses that some of the code for the website says there s no reasonable expectation for privacy for people using the website. barton suggested that could be a violation of federal health privacy laws, hippa laws. democratic congressman pallone said that hippa laws don t apply because obama care gets rid of pre-existing conditions for people trying to get insurance and pallone is correctly stating the administration position. i know because i ve asked administration officials about this very topic. they say hippa doesn t apply because it gets rid of pre-existing conditions. that s not the end of the story, ashleigh. the other part of the story is that the inspector general for the department of health and human services issued a report as recently as august, suggesting that obama care exchanges did have security control problems that could expose health records and financial records o
to hackers and criminals. but at that time, cms, the centers for medicaid and medicare services, they re responsible for the website. they said they re confident all of these problems would be fixed by october 1st. so, yes, privacy has been an issue. the administration says hippa is not. okay. so hippa is critical. that is massive. personal information, whether it s your name and number or not, is a bummer. i want to know it can t be hacked and that someone can t get my information, even if it is just name and address. laurie, that s where you come in. is anyone looking at the 5 million lines of code and seeing which ones are flawed and how we can feks them? i took away from this is that it s a massive blame game. anyone who could address it is blaming someone else. cheryl campbell said the main
problem at first, which caused our problem, was from another contractor, from edim, the secure account creation. andrew slavitt from optim said the we had to change it. making a change like this is not going to be easy and clearly there was not enough testing and clearly not enough time for testing. there were other contractors in charge of that, too. it wasn t just them. it s a huge blame game. you talk about this 500 million lines of code, one thing we heard is that it was cheryl campbell who was asked a question. they said, can you fix 5 million lines of code? that s the number that s out there. and she said no. if i went to my 300 employees and said you need to rewrite 5 million lines of code, they would laugh at me. this is an overinflated number. privacy, as you mentioned