In Guantanamo Bay, it is called guantanamo diary and after that panel and the final panel is on money and then we will talk to gilbert who wrote billion ball it is about College Sports and the funds they receive. Host Linda Hirshman, what is the relationship between Sandra Day Oconnor and Ruth Bader Ginsburg . Were they friends . Guest i would say they had an affectionate alliances. They were not bffs. Ruth Bader Ginsburg was really with friends with scalia. And Sandra Day Oconnor was really friends with lois powell and she and john and loi circumstanceslois went on vacation together. It was clear from their demeanor they had an affectionate alliance. Host what was their first meeting like . Guest i will say in 1981 when Sandra Day Oconnor was approve pointed to the Supreme Court Ruth Bader Ginsburg wasnt in washington. She heard about it on the radio and didnt know oconnor well. Oconnor was a judge and ginsburg didnt know here but said she was glad to hear it. We know they met before
In the govern class and had faith they deserved to be there and because of that they treated the men who were in the powerful role as if they, the women, were equal to the man. Because they treated the men as equal when the men pressed oconnor and ginsburg to admit they were inferior they took offense. And when they took offense they were so selfdisciplined they only took revenge when it would be effective. The classic example is the dean at Harvard Law School asked ms. Ginsburg in 1957 what she was doing taking up the place of a man at harvard and she said she thought she should anyhow as much as possible about her husbands work who was year ahead of her. After the womans movement, Ruth Bader Ginsburg told the story on the dean so many times he wrote to the harvard newspaper saying she he was only kidding. How did they get to where they were . Part of it was life on the ranch and part is Ruth Bader Ginsburg is smarter than any woman i have heard of. Host did Sandra Day Oconnor sit dow
A better alternative than a bloated bureaucracy which is an efficient and which cannot be controlled and their unions involved in that. What i see in the Charter Movement and what i think we have all seen is that not only Movement Toward programs like vouchers which rely on individual choice, a rational act, but also jonathan alluded to literally the running of part Charter Schools and that is like, how is there not a bigger conversation that is not just by the outraged left about the problem with that . I think think that is a real issue. I hope we can all assume that a forprofit Charter Management Organization operating exclusively in low Income Neighborhood that they probably have some intention beyond social mobility and created citizens. I would like to point that all of that is very macro unless you lose live close to a Community Like this. We see this and lots of schools and lots of ways. One area i am passionate about is the unromantic area of school lunch. If you look at the h
Receiving kids from other schools that have been shut because they were failing. So suddenly two Percentage Points and lo and behold we have now put that on watch lists. What do you do to principals when that happens . Decapitate them . I am not sure. I like teachers. There are hundreds of thousands of wonderful teachers in schools in the United States. I do not like to see them lead to, beaten up by ignorant politicians just catering to [applause] many in arizona know about School Choice. No other state in the United States has embraced School Choice like arizona. Over two decades of School Choice policies and in your work, you call the idea of choice the society centrality of markets. I would add competition and choice. Really in arizona, put forward as if it is a little innocuous. A better alternative than a bloated bureaucracy which is an efficient and which cannot be controlled and their unions involved in that. What i see in the Charter Movement and what i think we have all seen
Self discipline. I think that is an interesting place for us to end. We are out of time. Thank our authors today. [applause] we will be adjourning to the bookstore sales tent and signing area booth number 153. Peter slevin will be there shortly and Linda Hirshman after that. Thank you and become a friend. [inaudible conversations] booktv live coverage of the tucson festival of books continues. We are cheer on the campus of the university of arizona, the gallagher theater, the campus is quite large, just a little bit away from downtown tucson, Beautiful Day out here in tucson, the sun is shining, is in the 70s, the chamber of commerce is very clean, 100,000 people attending this festival in its eighth year and this is a two day festival and booktv is live, we are covering author panels as well as doing call ins in a minute or so, you will be able to talk with Linda Hirshman who you just heard on the air talking about her book sisters in law, Sandra Day Oconnor and how Sandra Day Oconnor