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Transcripts for MSNBC Jose Diaz-Balart Reports 20211122 15:43:00

perry, live from the courthouse in brunswick, georgia, and maya wiley, an msnbc legal analyst. good morning. cal, what have we heard so far? and this was the prosecution wrapping up its case. what do we expect for the rest of the day? reporter: good morning to you, sir. so we expect to hear the prosecution sort of finish up those closing arguments. then the defense will take their turn. keep in mind, the prosecution will have a chance to rebuttal. now, prosecutor here, linda dunkinkowski has done a wonderful job with travis mcmichael testifying on thursday. and the prosecutor, as you ve been hearing this morning, as she continues to lay out the state s case was able to get him to admit that at no time was ahmaud arbery threatening the group, at no time was he seen carrying a weapon. and that seems to punch some holes in the self-defense aspect of the case. she s trying to define key

Transcripts for MSNBC Jose Diaz-Balart Reports 20211122 15:16:00

the state must prove that the defendant caused the death of another. check. by committing a felony. check. we ve got four of them. do not need to show malice, okay? meaning, intent to commit the death of someone. now, the guy showed up at the convenience store, he s not there to murder the clerk. do not need to show that he intended the death with the felony. what we have to show is this. that the felony directly caused the death. you pulled the trigger on the shotgun, aggravated assault with a shotgun, yeah, immediately caused the death, right? that s a no-brainer. but what about the other three? you re sitting there thinking, okay, linda, what about the other three? did the other three felonies, aggravated assault with the pickup trucks, false imprisonment, criminal attempt of false imprisonment, did they play a substantial and necessary part in causing the death? the state s position is, yes, they did. in other words, but for this felony being committed, the death would not have occ

Transcripts for MSNBC Jose Diaz-Balart Reports 20211122 15:19:00

ask yourselves that. if the answer is yes, felony murder. check it off. criminal attempt at false imprisonment. so you re thinking, oh, linda, seriously, okay, that was on yeah, they pulled up to him, hey, stop, we want to talk to you. he runs away. they pull forward. they go down to the end of burrfort. they re trying to falsely imprison him over there. did that contribute to it? yes. because that s when they began their attack. they re using the pickup trucks over on burrfort to put him in reasonable apprehension of receiving serious bodily harm. they re putting him in fear with their actions. what does mr. brian do? doesn t try actually runs him into a ditch. runs him into the ditch. aggravated assault. so what s mr. arbery doing? we know, he runs away from them. and runs away from them and runs away from them. because they have tried to falsely imprison him on

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