told us on the beat in the witness interviews is the same thing they re telling the investigators, that s a big deal. they re key witnesses. they know him. wiseleberg declined to comment. so if investigators don t ultimately have enough evidence on him, he still may not feel pressure to cooperate or he may try to beat any case at trial. other trump loyalists have tried that tact but most were counting on the back stop of a pardon like what roger stone got and trump can no longer give. it s not likewiseleberg doesn t know top trump org people can t go to jail for what they re doing. you re looking at overhead footage of michael cohen reporting in. it was wiseleberg who literally helped seal cohen s fate. he knows where the trouble can lead. that was back when donald trump was using gangster talk dubbing cohen a, quote, rat.