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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211017 05:56:00

no sign anything heavy had ever dangled there. investigators then went to a vacant apartment a few doors down and hung a dummy, roughly the same size and weight as meg from the banister for a few minutes, before cutting it down. [noise] well, just that action alone created several indentations in the soft pine wood that we were tied off to. and the first time around, when meg actually died, there were no indentations? correct. correct. later, investigators use modeling clay and groups of varying sizes to try and recreate the marks they d seen on meg s body. and we could not recreate that ligature mark with rope. only a belt or a stripe of some sort, the confirmed, could

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211003 09:28:00

tammy, in which, sure enough, ken brought up the idea himself. i guess i don t want to say it. but she did say, choke me so i could die. i really believe this was ken s subconscious talking out. no one, not a soul, was thinking this was a strangulation case. until he opened his mouth and until he brings this up. that made everybody suspicious. every witness who testified as to having some contact with ken spoke about his unusual behavior. his focus was not on his wife. it was on other things. but! there s always a but. ken s defense attorney, mal gillin, accused police and prosecutors of jumping to the wrong conclusions and rushing to judgment against ken. that ligature mark? must have been made by the tube that lay on her neck while she was on life

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151025:01:25:00

one undercover detective asks us not to reveal his face. do you have the rope? yes. take a picture of it so we can correlate it with the ligature mark. quite an elaborate knot on the rope he prepared. left what could be a suicide note but not really. stating what he s planning on doing. just rambling about the family. i ve got a copy. okay. we take a copy for our file. with the external exams completed, dr. spitz is now ready to move on to the internal exams. as he s about to start on jill moore, his other assistant arrives, michelle waters. hello. hello. the internal exam is making a y incision across the body, opening the chest, opening the

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151025:08:25:00

police who were on the scene of yesterday s suicide are in the morgue today. one undercover detective asks us not to reveal his face. do you have the rope? yes. take a picture of it so we can correlate it with the ligature mark. quite an elaborate knot on the rope he prepared. left what could be a suicide note but not really. stating what he s planning on doing. just rambling about the family. i ve got a copy. okay. we take a copy for our file. with the external exams completed, dr. spitz is now ready to move on to the internal exams. as he s about to start on jill moore, his other assistant arrives, michelle waters. hello. hello. the internal exam is making a

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150724:05:22:00

about the ligature marks on her body saying nothing they found whether it was looking at her soft palette and the injuries to her neck and the rest of her body consistent with force, trauma or murder. they were instead consistent in their mind or according to the science with a suicide. they talked about the smoothness of the ligature mark. a couple of things are outstanding. they still have to test what they said was the trash bag that they said was used in the hanging. that has to have dna and other testing done. they need additional blood and other tests to hair etc. they didn t test for instance to find out if she epilepsy or whether or not there were any drugs for epilepsy in her system. some of this is not finished but they are going ahead with the idea of suicide. they have spent a lot of time on the issue of marijuana. what we haven t gotten answers to between them and the

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