the healing power of nature, which actually worked for me, and works for everyone. and what is becoming more and more aware partly as a result, i say, of covid. but do you think, to use the terrible cliche, that covid is a wake up call for us all, that there is something desperately out of kilter between our, that is human as a species, humanity s relationship with the planet? and i just wonder whether we all need to reflect on that? and maybe you, robin hanbury tenison, need to reflect on it, too. you ve talked about guilt in this interview, but you, after all, have spent a life jetting around the world to go and visit remote places. do we all need to think at this point in the planet s history about whether we can continue to behave in the way we have in the past? yes and yes. you couldn t be more right about that. i was ready, just before this covid thing happened, to make an announcement that i was going to give up all long haul travel. really? i ve been incredibly lucky. i ve li